Very cool video. So Billy Corgan just got his stolen “Gish” guitar back and in this video, he shows it off to everyone. When I watch this video, I can immediately tell that Billy is totally psyched to have the guitar back. You can tell he’s very happy to have it back. When he played this guitar on this video, it does sound very Smashing Pumpkins-like. After hearing what that guitar sounds like now, I can see why the guitar is very special to Billy.
After Billy records the new Pumpkins album with that guitar, I’m sure he’s gonna go on tour with it too. When he does go on tour with that guitar, I’m sure he’ll keep a much better eye on it so it won’t get stolen again.
I’m not a big fan of Fender Strats but that guitar does sound good. That Strat that Billy has won’t sound like any other Strats at all. It’s gonna be interesting to hear what the Smashing Pumpkins sound like now that Billy has that guitar back.
I know how a lot of people will want to believe that guitars are nothing but they are something. Guitars are really special treasures, they are no joke. I’m a guitar lover myself.
In the earlier days of the Smashing Pumpkins, Billy had a guitar that was very special to him. A guitar that he used on the first Pumpkins album “Gish” which was stolen from him at a concert during the album’s tour. Well, 27 years later Corgan is now reunited with that “Gish” guitar… the guitar which Corgan says that created the band’s sound and said the guitar changed the way he and the band played.
How did he reunite with the guitar? Well a woman owned it and kept it in her basement for many years but then a friend of hers told her it might belong to Billy. So she decided to contact the band online and did her best to grab the band’s attention. When she couldn’t get the band’s attention, she was contacted by a company named Sound Royalties which helped get the guitar back to Corgan. Now the guitar is back in Corgan’s hands.
Did Corgan reward Beth in return for the guitar? No. She didn’t want anything. Corgan tried to give her a lot of money as a reward but she didn’t want it.
Now that Billy has the guitar back, he doesn’t plan on keeping the guitar locked up in a safe place and he’s probably gonna continue to use it in the band. He says he’s gonna get it all fixed up so he can record with it on the next Pumpkins record.
This is a cool story and Beth was very cool to do that! If I owned a guitar that belongs to a famous rock star, I would do my best to return it ’cause it’s the best thing to do. People may not think so but guitars are very special especially the vintage guitars!!!
So the Smashing Pumpkins announced their new album and when they announced their new album on facebook, I wrote a comment saying that I wished D’arcy played bass on it and did backup vocals. Well, that comment seems to have triggered the Pumpkins fanbase and a huge debate sparked because of it. They were telling me things like: “Get over it”, “D’arcy is irrelevant, let it go”, “Having D’arcy back in the band would be a Nostalgia act”, etc. I can go on and on. The fans were also trying to justify his reason for not allowing her to be back in the band full time.
All of a sudden, the fans seems to have negative feelings toward D’arcy and now siding with Billy Corgan over this whole feud. I joined in on the debate and I was siding with D’arcy all the way through. I’ve been trying to explain why D’arcy deserves to be back in the band full time. I was saying things like D’arcy was a founding member and she helped create history with the Pumpkins. The fans just put laughing emoji’s on those comments and I’m like, “WTF”? Why do some fans hate D’arcy all of a sudden? The fans did everything they possibly can in that FB debate to make it seem like Billy was right on his decision to move on without D’arcy. I tried to explain that it’s not a true Pumpkins reunion without her and they laughed at that too. They defended Billy no matter what I said which is pretty crazy. After all this, I stuck to my guns through and through and defended my rights to believe that D’arcy has every right to be upset with Billy.
The fanbase tried to point me out to their Beats 1 interview and the texts that D’arcy released herself. I was still defending D’arcy. I watched that Beats 1 interview and all those things Billy was saying about D’arcy, he was just telling his own side of the story and that’s the end of that. As far as those texts goes, the fans tried to make it seem like Billy was willing to let D’arcy back in the band however she wants to be involved but did they read all of the text messages? Later in the texts, it seems like Billy quickly changed his mind on her being involved with the Pumpkins as much as she wants and instead only allowing her to perform 2 to 7 songs. I pointed that out as well.
Billy defends his reason for not allowing her to be a part of the Pumpkins full time ’cause he claims he hasn’t seen or heard her play in 19 years. He said in that Beats 1 interview that he invited her to come out and rehearse to see if she still got it and he claims she wanted no part of it. Now D’arcy denies Billy claim about offering her to be involved in the band by saying “I don’t want be in their fucking clown car”.
After seeing their Beats 1 interview, maybe D’arcy is actually on point now that she apparently no longer wants to be a part of it herself. From all the news reports on this feud, it was the other band members Jimmy, James and Jeff didn’t want her to be a part of this reunion and Billy is listening to them.
What gets me the most about the fans argument about D’arcy is that they are acting like she was never important to the band. They make claims that all the bass work on the first 5 albums was mostly Billy playing bass. There are claims that D’arcy played bass very little. That’s just a rumor going around and there’s no proof of that. In my opinion, I think the fanbase were just trying their best to make Billy look good and make D’arcy seem less important.
The negativity toward D’arcy is just unreal. I shake my head in disbelief reading all that. D’arcy was a founding member of the Pumpkins and she was around at the start of the band. That alone makes her an important member and she totally deserves to be in the reunion full time… recording on the new album and playing on all the shows on tour. I think she totally deserves to celebrate the history with them. Celebrate what they did together.
Oh well, what do ya know? This is the music industry. If you want to be a rock star, you’re going to deal with a lot of band egos and band drama. That’s what you’re seeing here.
I love the Pumpkins music but I’m not afraid to say that Billy Corgan is a bit of an egomaniac, narcissist and he’s kind of douchey too. He’s only saying his own side of the story of this whole feud so you can’t believe everything he’s saying. D’arcy is saying her own side of the story too, they both are.
I do believe that D’arcy deserves to be part of the reunion on a full time basis ’cause she did so much with the band in the 90’s. I think the Pumpkins fans are terrible too and they’re fucking annoying assholes.
The Pumpkins are a great band but there’s something about the original line-up. The Pumpkins are Billy, James, Jimmy and D’arcy. Not Billy, James, Jimmy and Jeff. I’m a huge fan of the original lineup. D’arcy’s bass playing and backup vocals is what helped defined the Pumpkins sound. We deserve to hear that again. They don’t sound like the original Pumpkins with a different bass player and different backup vocalists. They may sound great without her still but they don’t have the true Pumpkins sound without D’arcy.
In my opinion, Billy should feel ashamed of himself over this feud and getting the fans to have negative feelings toward her.
Here’s an old live performance of the true original Pumpkins including D’arcy on the bass. Enjoy. Wish we could have seen the true original lineup today.
For some reason Billy Corgan will not let D’arcy Wretzky back in the Smashing Pumpkins full time. He was willing to have her perform with the Pumpkins for a song or or two while on tour but D’arcy didn’t like that idea. She wanted to participate in the original reunion and be a part of it all. She wanted to play bass on every song. BIlly does explain why he doesn’t want her in the band full time ’cause he was concerned about her playing ability since he hasn’t heard or seen her play in many years.
After all this, D’arcy and Billy got into a huge argument… things escalated and the feud got worse. Billy here says that D’arcy continues to ask to be back in the band even after their little fight.
Ya know, I can completely understand why D’arcy badly wants to get back in the band full time. This shouldn’t be called the original Smashing Pumpkins reunion if Billy is not gonna have D’arcy back in. The music press have been calling it the “original” Smashing Pumpkins lineup but it isn’t without D’arcy. Sorry but that’s just the fucking truth, ya know what I’m saying?
She founded the band with Billy. In fact, it was her that helped get the Smashing Pumpkins to mainstream stardom. She was with the band at the very start. The goal with this new tour was that Billy wanted to celebrate the Smashing Pumpkins history by performing songs from the first 5 records. Well guess what, y’all. D’arcy played bass on all 5 of those records. So to call this tour a “Smashing Pumpkins original reunion celebration” is a joke without D’arcy.
I can understand Billy’s concern on her playing ability but my question is why didn’t Billy invite her over so she can play bass for him to see if she still got it? Billy was just so quick to judge her and that’s wrong. I love Billy and the Smashing Pumpkins but I think it’s a mistake to not have D’arcy participate in the reunion full time. I can’t blame D’arcy for begging and pleading to get back in the band ’cause I’m sure she misses playing with them. She wants to celebrate the Pumpkins history with them ’cause she is a part of that history. She is a recognizable figure from all the Pumpkins videos in the 90’s.
I think the real reason Billy won’t let her back in is ’cause she said some pretty negative stuff about him in the press and he is upset with her about it. I think he is lying about the reason he won’t let her in.
I’m a big Pumpkins fan and all but Billy seems kind of douchey and ego-driven.
Yeah, I’m posting that list again so I can name a few of my choices of Pumpkins songs that should be played on the tour that are not on this list.
Here they are:
“Bodies” from the Mellie Collie album
(I was surprised that Billy neglected this song from the list. This is a fucking tight song and it should be played on the tour. I love this song!)
“Fuck You (An Ode to No One)”
(Another sick song off of Mellie Collie and I can’t believe Billy forgot that one)
“I Am One”
(Another badass song from their earlier days that they neglected from the list. This is probably my favorite song off the Gish album)
“Once Upon a Time”
(I love the “Adore” album. Since the Reunion Tour was meant to play songs from the first five albums, this song counts. This is my favorite song off of “Adore” and I hope it gets played on the tour)
(Another brilliant song off of “Adore” that should be played on the tour. Fuckin’ love this song so much! “Adore” wasn’t everyone’s favorite Pumpkins record but I loved it and it’s an underrated album for sure!)
(Another sick song off of “Adore”. I’m not ashamed to love this album even though fans called it the worst album. I didn’t think so. It’s a great record!)
“I Of the Morning”
(This is in my opinion the best song off of Machina/The Machines of God. Can’t believe Billy didn’t think about this one.)
“Glass and the Ghost Children”
(This song is pretty awesome. Another favorite song of mine off the first Machina album. Long track but really really good stuff. I hope Billy plays this one. Even though this song wasn’t a smash hit, it still gets a lot of attention.)
“Cash Star Car”
(Probably the best song off of Machina II. This is my favorite track off the album. Fucking tight)
(Probably my favorite track off the “Siamese Dream” album. What was Billy thinking when he didn’t include this song)
Pretty cool. Billy Corgan shares a list of songs the Smashing Pumpkins plan to play at the new tour this year. This isn’t a setlist ’cause if you read above, it’s a list of songs they plan to play so the order would be different at each show. He is also asking for fans input on what songs they would like to hear on the tour. Songs that aren’t on this list.
The Pumpkins doing a cover of Led Zep’s “Stairway”? Well, that should sound interesting! Can’t wait for the bootleg youtube video of that one.
More good Smashing Pumpkins news. Not only will the band reunite to play material from the band’s first five albums on the tour, it looks like they are going to be releasing a new album this year after all. Billy Corgan revealed the Pumpkins already have 8 new songs and Billy revealed the names of them. They’ll probably play the new songs on the tour. The band will also hit the studio as soon as possible to record these new songs and they’ll probably write more new songs for the next album. The band will be working with iconic producer, Rick Rubin. Billy is also working on a new solo album as well.
Yeah, I predicted that the Pumpkins will release a new album too and I was right. What will the new Pumpkins songs sound like? Will they be heavy and rocking songs like they used to sound like or will they be ballads? Probably a little bit of both. That’s what I love about Corgan’s songwriting. His songwriting is always unpredictable. Sometimes his songs are heavy & rocking, sometimes he writes happy songs and he writes a lot of slow ballads too. I’m sure the new Pumpkins record will have some heavy rockin’ songs on it ’cause Billy would know what the fans would want. Hopefully the new album will be heavy rockin’ like “Siamese Dream” and “Mellie Collie” were.
Speaking of the Pumpkins, I’m gonna have to try and collect the rest of their albums for my Ipod this year ’cause I love their music. I bought “Siamese Dream” for my Ipod earlier this year ’cause I used to have the album on CD but don’t know what happened to it. It’s good to have that album again. I also need to buy “Mellie Collie” from ITunes soon ’cause I used to have that album on CD but want to get it back. I have “Oceania”, “ZeitGeist” and “Adore” on physical CD. I also need to get “Machina I & II” and “Monuments to an Elegy”.
I think Billy is a very talented songwriter and he’s a good live performer too. I can’t stop listening to his solo album “Ogilala” too ’cause that album is pretty amazing stuff.
Well Billy Corgan is getting attacked everywhere on the internet since the Smashing Pumpkins reunion has been announced. Even the press have been attacking him too. Why are a lot of people attacking him? Well like the title of this post says, he’s being attacked ’cause he flipped his feelings on reunions/greatest hits shows, and he is also being attacked for excluding D’arcy from the original lineup.
In the past, Billy used to have negative feelings on reunion tours and greatest hits shows ’cause he never wanted the Pumpkins to be a nostalgia act.
So let me get this straight… fans of the Pumpkins have begged Billy to bring back the original Pumpkins lineup for years. Billy actually listened to the fans and gave them what they wanted and now they are hating?
I’m reading about this through the press and I’ve read the back and forth texts between D’arcy and Billy.
Billy wanted D’arcy to be part of the original lineup, but for some reason Billy refuses to have her as a bass player. He wanted her to participate in other things for the other shows and maybe that’s why D’arcy refused to be a part of the lineup ’cause she wanted to be involved in everything. To me those text messages D’arcy posted, she could be selecting certain messages just to make Billy look bad publicly so that might not be the whole conversation. Billy does have a point however that nobody has heard her play bass in years so nobody has any idea what she sounds like.
On top of that who cares if they move on without D’arcy. I’m just glad the band is back after a long hiatus. Besides, legendary bands reuniting without their founding members happens all the time.
Like I said before, Billy may have flipped on reunions/greatest hits shows but maybe he changed his mind? He wants to celebrate the history of the Pumpkins with us. That’s what it’s all about. Fans begged Billy to play the old songs at the concerts again and he’s giving us that. Why is he being attacked for that? Well, jealousy is the only answer I can think of. Can’t think of no other reason.
A lot of critics and haters are thinking the Pumpkins reunion tour won’t last and tickets won’t sell well ’cause of Billy. Well, make no mistake about it, haters. This tour WILL BE very successful and I predict most of the shows will sell-out. A lot of people in America still love the original Pumpkins line-up.
Band feuds sucks, but that’s the name of the game in the industry. The industry is tough. You gotta deal with a lot of huge egos and band drama. That’s the way it is. Billy had feuds with Jimmy and James Iha in the past but those three guys are cool with each other now obviously. Apparently, they’re still having problems with D’arcy and looks like Billy wants nothing to do with her at all. I can’t blame him. She seems like a piece of work and toxic.
What’s even more pathetic is that fans are attacking Billy simply ’cause he appeared on Alex Jones show a couple of times and they’re boycotting the Pumpkins for that reason.
Just stop complaining and enjoy the music! The Pumpkins reunion is gonna be killer and I can’t wait for all the live bootleg youtube videos of the shows.
When it comes to the Smashing Pumpkins reuniting with its original members, people wonder how long the tour is gonna be. Would it be a one-off show, a short tour or a full one? Turns out the tour is gonna be a full tour. Check out the tour dates on the band’s official website. The tour is pretty massive.
The Smashing Pumpkins members are confirmed too with Billy, Jimmy Chamberlin and James Iha all coming back. Jeff Schroeder is also coming back who first joined the band in 2007.
What will the band play on the tour? Will it be a greatest hits show or will the band play obscure songs from the Pumpkins catalogue of music? I think a little bit of both. With this massive tour, they’ll try to play as much as they can from their discography of albums. I think they’ll definitely play everything from “Gish”, “Siamese Dream” and “Mellie Collie” especially.
Sure, Billy Corgan may have been against greatest hits tours in the past but maybe he changed his mind? Billy probably thought to himself, “Lets celebrate the history of the Pumpkins by celebrating with the fans” and that’s what it’s all about the way I look at it.
Will the Pumpkins record a new studio record after the tour? Never say never on that one. It could be a possibility. They’ll probably write new songs while out on the road. Who knows what may happen. They might already have new songs that they could play on the tour as well.
Glad the band is back finally. I’m a longtime Pumpkins fan. Have been from the very beginning. I never saw the band myself but would love to.
Hopefully the band releases a live DVD/CD set of this new tour and I’m sure they will.
The Smashing Pumpkins are about to confirm their reunion tour later today, but it looks like it’s gonna be without their founding bassist, D’arcy Wretzky. Looks like the D’arcy and Billy Corgan feud is heating up ’cause she keeps bashing him in the press. After she keeps bashing Billy in the band, I’m totally on the band’s side and not her. They tried to let her back in the band, but she decides to make them look bad by claiming Billy changed his mind about her and replacing her. She says a lot worse things about him, though is that she says Billy has a brain tumor simply because he supports Trump.
Well gee, what a surprise! D’arcy Wretzky another unhinged liberal and snowflake! Maybe she’s the one that has a brain tumor! Like the title of this post says, maybe it’s the best idea that she not be back in the band which is true. Who needs her! The band tried to offer her back in the band but D’arcy is now saying all kinds of nasty things about Billy.
I can’t wait for Billy’s next interview with the press, and I’m sure he’ll have a lot to say about this. What D’arcy is doing is unprofessional and inappropriate.
Like I said, who needs her! Still though, the Smashing Pumpkins reunion with Billy, Jimmy Chamberlin and James Iha is gonna be fucking awesome!
No announcement yet but a little later today.
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