Yes, I understand that love is love. Yes, I understand that two people in the same sex can fall in love all they want to but…. marriage wasn’t created for them. Marriage was created for a reason and it wasn’t intended to be husband/husband and wife/wife. Traditional marriage is losing the respect that it doesn’t deserve. There are still traditional marriage believers but those believers are slowly diminishing ’cause there are way too many liberals out there. Today’s announcement by the Supreme Court of them striking down DOMA and Prop 8 was no surprise really.
Whatever the government can do to get people’s minds off the IRS scandals and the wiretapping stuff.
We have a tyrant of a President who is shredding our Constitution to pieces, committing illegal war crimes, arming dangerous people, and the list goes on — yet people want to ignore that stuff and concentrate on less important stuff such as marriage equality.
People should have all their right to believe in traditional marriage. We don’t hate gay people, we respect ’em. We just respect the traditional way of marriage and that’s the way it should be. I was gonna write my thoughts about this in facebook this morning but I didn’t want to get into a heated & controversial debate against those marriage equality supporters. People just don’t understand traditional marriage at all. Nobody’s being discriminated against, it’s about the traditional part of things, ya know?
I don’t believe kids should be raised by gay parents. It’s my opinion and I have the right for it. If you don’t like what I say on here, you can stop reading my blog, please. Liberals…. damn, those people are annoying.
Kev
K'Brocking 
Hey, you have the right to not believe in gay marriage – so don’t get married to another dude. Problem solved.
That’s the best response people can come up with? Lame. It probably won’t affect me in any way, sure but it’ll have an affect on the children and it’ll disrespect God’s way of what he originally intended marriage to be. That’s why there are still some people who still support traditional marriage.
Kev
What about atheists and agnostics? Want to ban them too?
God? When did the separation of church and state end?
Incidentally…when I got married it had absolutely NOTHING to do with God, soooo….
Marriage has everything to do with religion. I am not religious but I still respect the religious part of marriage. That’s where marriage originally got it’s start and what it was originally intended to be.
What’s sad is that traditional supporters never win and they get unfairly accused of being hateful homophobes. That’s why I try not to defend traditional marriage too much ’cause it obviously pisses a lot of people off no matter how friendly and respectful my opinions can get. This world is messed up. As long as we are on your side, you can talk all you want.
My last response to this post, just wanted to get my thoughts out ’cause I know I’ll never win in trying to defend traditional marriage ’cause this world is messed up.
Kev
So it’s marriage as defined by the bible? Because the bible defines a whole bunch of situations as marriage:
Many of which are now illegal (polygamy is illegal, rape is illegal, soldiers can’t claim women as spoils of war, etc.)
If you’re for traditional marriage, then why is it just man and woman and not all these others? Because the bible doesn’t at any point rescind the others and just keep man and woman.
And if you say it’s because secular laws leave only man and woman, then the Supreme Court decision is a secular law and just as valid.
It doesn’t matter how long ago traditional marriage was, you can’t change it. It was meant to be a permanent thing.
I might not like Marco Rubio too much but this guy is right on the money:
http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=297dace2-be66-483e-9c0c-ae407f98f871
Kev
We did change it, though. We outlawed most traditional marriages. Those have been around longer than the U.S. itself, and we went ahead and made them illegal, because they didn’t involve consent or had other factors.
(Honestly, if a bunch of women want to marry one guy, I don’t have a problem with that.)
It can’t be changed, period, end of story. The government does not have the right to change things around. It shouldn’t be a political matter either. A lot of marriage equality defenders don’t understand the historical part of things, the institution of marriage.
Kev
“It can’t be changed, period, end of story.”
It’s been changed plenty. rd912 already pointed out plenty of examples, but most recently, it was illegal in may places for interracial couples to marry.
BTW, this is not slamming your opinion. I just don’t know why you say “traditional marriage” when traditional marriage was a whole bunch of things that we consider wrong now.
“It can’t be changed, period, end of story.”
Kev, we did change it. Polygamy was a religiously defined traditional marriage. God approved of it, according to the bible. We outlawed it. So yes, marriage can be changed and defined by law.
Another thing. It used to be you could marry someone at any age, so if someone wanted to marry a 12 year old, they could do so. That was traditional, and probably happened repeatedly in both our families. Now there are laws against that sort of thing.
I guess what I’m saying is that you can be opposed to gay marriage, that’s your right. But when you start rationalizing it with the idea of “traditional marriage,” your argument goes out the window because traditional marriage has been subject to changes throughout history and through different interpretations. It’s never just been “one man one woman” until secular laws all but made it that way. The Supreme Court decision is just another secular redefinition. Nothing new here.
And DOMA did restrict people’s rights. The woman who brought suit against it was charged $300,000 that a man and woman married would not have been.
And the Supreme Court didn’t strike down Prop 8, they just said it wasn’t for them to decide, that it was California’s issue to sort out. If you’re for states rights, then you’re for the decision.
Kev Brock says:
June 26, 2013 at 1:29 pm
It can’t be changed, period, end of story. The government does not have the right to change things around. It shouldn’t be a political matter either. A lot of marriage equality defenders don’t understand the historical part of things, the institution of marriage.
Kev
If you believe it should not be politicized, and the the government has no right to change it, then logic dictates that they also have no right to stop it.
And there was a time in this country when it was illegal for blacks to marry whites. Pretty much all interracial marriage was illegal at some point in the US.
Well, whatever. I honestly believe most people are really uneducated with the whole marriage thing. Same sex marriage doesn’t make a bit of sense, it wasn’t made to be that way. I’ll always believe in the union between one man and a woman. Marriage equality is taking over the world and I don’t like it, honestly. I totally blame it on the media and the internet of how marriage equality supporters got so popular so people join in on the bandwagon so they can make themselves feel good and all special. Not everyone have to have the same views and opinions in the world of politics. When you see everyone being all for something, chances are, I’m going to be against it. There are more liberals than conservatives and liberals look at conservatives like we are bad people. Well, us conservatives/right wingers feel the same way about liberals… we think of you just as bad.
I’ll keep this topic left open and approve your comments but I will no longer reply. This is my final reply in this topic. This is why I don’t like debating about same sex marriage ’cause it can be a huge pain in the ass.
Kev
“Same sex marriage doesn’t make a bit of sense, it wasn’t made to be that way.”
Made by who? Because apes don’t have monogamous relationships, they have harems, with females clustered around a dominant male and the other males vying for the alpha spot. In fact our ancestors were along those lines, up until relatively recently. It wasn’t until civilization came along that we started thinking of marriage at all, and even then there was no strict definition.
If you would rather go by the bible, well, we’ve already listed the ways marriage is defined, and it’s not just limited to man+woman.
BTW, did you know that pirates had civil partnerships between two men, and that native Americans recognized transgendered people?
We have a tyrant of a President who is shredding our Constitution to pieces, committing illegal war crimes, arming dangerous people, and the list goes on — yet people want to ignore that stuff and concentrate on less important stuff such as marriage equality.
OK, I can think of at least a dozen presidents that applies to off the top of my head. Could you be a little more specific? Is it one of the white ones, or s it the black one?
And if marriage equality isn’t important, why do you write so much about it?
This is why I don’t like debating about same sex marriage ’cause it can be a huge pain in the ass.
Kev
*Facepalm*
Speaking as a gay man in a same sex relationship and raising children with my husband, I can still say that I respect Kev’s opinion on this and his way of stating it. I don’t necessarily agree with his reasoning, but i do appreciate that Kev is one of the very few people who opposes gay marriage or homosexuality in general who didn’t claim that he doesn’t ‘hate’ homosexuals, just disagrees with it, while in the next breath contradicting that claim by saying such terrible things and calling such terrible names that I’d never spew toward my worse enemy.
I absolutely believe that everyone has a right to their own beliefs and own opinions, even those that not only differ from mine but that oppose my very lifestyle. However, it is when people cross that line into persecution, name calling, bullying and hatred that it has gone too far, and sadly that is usually the case.
I appreciate that Kev did not take that tactic, and simply stuck to stating his belief and why he feels that way, which I can respect.
Thank you. That’s the kind of people I want to see, being respectful to my opinions even if they don’t agree with it. I usually do my best not to try and sound offensive but people get all over me no matter what. I do respect gay people, though. I have nothing against them at all. Rock on!
Kev