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Why I continued the Trayvon discussions…

I was gonna give up the Trayvon discussions but up until the point where George saved a family from an overturned truck… I just had to post that story just so that I can show people that George is not the monster that the media makes him out to be. I also wanted to show a few useful facebook memes to bring up a point about a few things. I may have given up the Trayvon discussion in facebook but I think I will continue it here. I feel that this topic should not be ignored and I need to voice my feelings about this. I need to let my voice heard.

It’s interesting how people react to this story

In facebook, I’ve gotten too many complaints of people saying that I shouldn’t say stuff like, “You would do the same thing if you were in this situation”. Well, it’s true if you think about it, right? If some punk kid or even a full grown adult was in your face and all of a sudden this person starts kicking your ass… what else are you going to do? You have to kill that person in order to survive; otherwise, you would be dead if you don’t do anything. You can’t just let this criminal kill ya. It’s gonna make him win and let him go free. Most importantly… you have too many family & friends who love and care for you. You have a whole life ahead of you… you can’t just let the criminal kill you. When people gets offended when I say things like, “You would do the same thing if you were in this situation”… that means people are afraid to admit that they would do the same thing. They know I’m telling the truth and they hate hearing it.

If you had some guy slamming your head against the sidewalk, beating you with a baseball bat or smashing your head against glass or something drastic as that… there is no other way to escape from that stuff. The only way to escape from the brutal beating alive is to kill your opponent. Whatever it takes with a gun, knife or whatever weapon you could find. If you’re good at fighting yourself… you can even kill your opponent with your bare hands if necessary. Do whatever it takes to survive. There’s nothing wrong with it. It’s completely okay.

These things happen all the time in America. It’s been happening for years. People kill other people for self defense. They usually don’t get arrested but even if they do get arrested — they are usually acquitted in trial.

There are also too many people who still see that Trayvon was a sweet innocent little boy and they think he was never a thug. That’s what the media and Trayvon’s family wanted you to believe. Have you ever noticed that Trayvon’s family never released that much photos to the media publicly? The only photos they released of him were ones of him that were younger than 17… back in the days when he did look innocent and harmless. They didn’t release any pictures of him wearing gangsta kind of clothing or anything like that.

Yes, there is a race war going on. In the media and out on the streets in various cities in the USA with different protests/riots going on. Obama just made the topic of race going even more with his last speech about Trayvon. His speech was pretty racist toward the white people.

People just hate hearing the truth that Trayvon started it all. That’s why people get upset and that’s why they go after people who side with G.Z.

Kids aren’t always good kids. They can be a bunch of punks and they can be little brats. I know — I’ve dealt with them myself when I was in school — they can be pretty violent. I’ve gotten bullied quite often and even almost gotten into fights with them myself. Kids aren’t always angels and people need to stop thinking they are. If you want kids to be “good” kids… they can be… it requires good parenting skills if you want them to behave as they get older.

After all the gun shootings and other violence over the years from Gabby Giffords, the Aurora movie theater shootings, the Boston Bombings, etc. What was the age range of the suspects of those crimes? Yes, that’s right… they were young kids, go figure. You have every good fucking reason to kill these violent little pricks. So don’t sit there and tell me that these kids don’t deserve to die.

If George didn’t kill Trayvon Martin and let him live… think how many more criminals acts he could have done that day. Trayvon could have killed someone or start a house on fire or something of that sort. Remember, kids aren’t always little angels. If you don’t want your kid to turn out that way, you need to be a good father and mother if you don’t want them to grow up to be a violent criminal.

If your life was being threatened by some kid… yep, they deserved to be killed. When there is nothing else you can do… there is no other choice and I’m sticking with it.

Kev

Trayvon Martin should have had better parents…

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If Trayvon Martin behaved well and if he was respectful to that small community village… then he would have been alive right now. Kids don’t get followed for no reason. Trayvon’s parents were lousy. Trayvon’s father should have been a better father.

Use common sense, everyone. It’ll do you some good.

Kev

Hmmmmm… where’s the outrage in this, hey???

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Stealing this useful facebook meme for this blog! Roderick Scott was part of a Neighborhood Watch. This incident happened in New York State in a small town called, Greece. Shot a kid out of self defense after catching him doing criminal acts. There is no Stand Your Ground law in New York either and he was found not guilty anyway.

Where is the outrage in this? Do you see the white community being angry… starting riots and protesting justice for Christopher? I’m willing to bet the blacks will hail Roderick a hero for this too.

These things happen all the time.

Read the full story, here.

This case very similar to the Martin/Zimmerman story but slightly different.

I don’t hate Roderick for what he did, though. What he did was very heroic too, and I applaud anybody who defend their own lives from dangerous people no matter the age.

Kev

About the “he shouldn’t have gotten out of his truck” or “let the police handle it” arguments…

When people try to defend Trayvon Martin the best they can, the only arguments I can see them come up with is that, “he shouldn’t have gotten out of his truck” or “he should have” let the police handle it”.

Here’s my response to those two arguments:

He shouldn’t have gotten out of his truck…

One of the most popular arguments I’ve seen is that people claim if he didn’t get out of his truck then none of this would have happened. Wrong, and here’s why he got out of his truck. Zimmerman was driving to buy groceries and spotted this suspicious kid standing in the yard of someone’s home where he didn’t live. Trayvon was looking around and staring at him. On the reenactment video, George made it pretty clear that he didn’t have to get out and follow him but the reason he did that is ’cause he already called a police officer to the scene to pick Trayvon up. George just wanted to wait with Trayvon for the police officer to arrive, that was it. George didn’t really want any violence to come out of this thing at all.

If you watch the reenactment video, George didn’t confront Trayvon at all. George was just walking around trying to find him and when he was no where to be seen… George went back to his truck, and that was when Trayvon confronted him. Trayvon yelled from behind him, “Yo, you got a problem”, and George simply said, “No, no problem”. George went looking for his cell phone and Trayvon yelled, “You got a problem now?” Then Trayvon punched him in the face, and that’s when the fighting all started.

It was Trayvon that was confrontational from the very beginning. Trayvon staring at George just made him a little uncomfortable and that’s what made George have no choice but to go around looking for him. So some of you mistakenly believe that none of this would have happened if George didn’t get out of his truck?

Correction: None of this would have happened if Trayvon wasn’t so confrontational and cooperated with George. It was Trayvon that should have behaved more responsibly. All George was doing was doing his job.

Letting the police handle it…

A lot of people like to make it look like that George wasn’t gonna let the police handle it. They all want to make it look like that George was going to take matters to his own hands when all that is not true. Like I said. George was following the guidelines of the Neighborhood Watch. He knew exactly what he was doing. That’s his job if you see something suspicious, you’re supposed to call it in to police right away. George called the police like maybe once or twice before the shooting happened, and there was already a police officer on the way.

Keep in mind guys that these small gated communities and villages are pretty far away from police stations. That’s why the community has a Neighbor Watch ’cause the police can’t be around, all the time.

When you’re getting your head slammed into a sidewalk… do you honestly believe a cop is gonna rush over to stop it? George tried screaming for help (which I’m pretty sure it was him screaming for help in the background in that 911 call, not Trayvon) and no help came but when George was able to reach for his gun — that’s when he had no choice to do what he did.

George was gonna let the police handle things. Nobody will never admit to that. It’s just sad. Like I said, people will make up all kinds of lies to make Trayvon look good. Just like Trayvon’s witnesses lied that it was himyelling for help in the background of the 911 call when it was actually George screaming.

George did all the right things. He would have done the same to a white person. If he did it to a white person, then this case wouldn’t have been all over the news and nobody would have cared. George’s innocence was clearly proven in trial and sure enough — people are going to think it’s a broken justice system. People also mistakenly believe that George feels no remorse for it which I also disagree with. I’m pretty sure he hated to do it. I’m sure he still feels terrible that he did it but he had no other choice.

You would have done the same thing if you were in that situation. I would. Trayvon’s family members are a bunch of liars as well. They make claims that he wasn’t a thug and they tried their best to make it look like George was the aggressor — the people went along with it. Just wait until Trayvon’s criminal record gets released to the public. Just wait until videos and photos of Trayvon doing bad stuff. Maybe if someone shot video footage and photos of that shooting incident… that stuff could get released too.

Nobody wants to admit that Trayvon started it all. Like I said, I hope you guys don’t become jury members or lawyers.

George got the not guilty verdict. Accept it. Shut up. Move on. George should be able to move on with his life and leave this behind him.

Kev

All the drama that comes out of the Zimmerman/Martin case…

I know… this trial is controversial all around. People are addicted to talking about it. While most mistakenly believe that Trayvon didn’t deserve it, and there a handful of others who believe GZ is innocent. It’s a mixed reaction. Of course, when people side with GZ and think he’s innocent… people will look at this person like he/she is an asshole or something. It makes Zimmerman supporters bad for siding with him. I’ve never seen such a case that came out to be such a damn circus. It’s almost like a soap opera, indeed. I’ve had several people in facebook turn their back on me and deleted/blocked me just for agreeing that GZ did it for self defense. I’ve been called a racist for it too and all that stuff. This is why I was quietly following the trial before the verdict even happened. I didn’t really want to talk about it publicly ’cause I had a feeling I was gonna get a lot of bullshit from it. I really should have kept quiet and kept my opinion to myself. Oh well. I can’t please everyone. That’s not the way this world works, ya know?

There has been plenty of true crime cases over the years. Whenever I side with the defendant and thinks he/she is innocent… people had no problem with my opinion. It was all fine and good but here comes the Zimmerman case… people gave me a lot of shit for it. I mean really?

These true crime cases & big trials that makes the news are public stories. There’s going to be mixed reactions. The only reason people give you shit is because they mistakenly see Trayvon as this harmless little boy who didn’t “deserve” it. They’ll go after anybody who disrespects him and they’ll defend him no matter what it is said or no matter what has been proven. When people publicly side with GZ… they become the easy target and they end up losing a lot of respect from people around them.

Really, people? These are big national news stories that has nothing to do with us. Are there better things to get mad about over? Does this stuff have to do with our personal lives or our business? Really proves how dramatic and soap opera like people can really be. I’m tired of it.

That’s what trials are made public for. It’s made public for people to discuss their views and honest thoughts. It’s made for the people to decide whether the defendant is innocent or guilty.

I delete a lot of comments on Zimmerman trial ’cause most of you were acting dumb. Repeating the same discussion, “he shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck” or “let the police handle it”. You wouldn’t quit those postings. It was annoying me. Come up with something new. Something intelligent ’cause the three of you don’t do any of that.

Zimmerman didn’t do anything wrong. He defended his life, helped that small little community in Sanford, he was found not guilty, and it’s time to move on. You just need to accept things for what they are. Just imagine if Trayvon did break into someone’s home or start a fire on someone’s home. He could have done all that. That’s why George had to check him out to make sure he wasn’t gonna do anything stupid. That was all George wanted to do. Check him out. He got attacked by Trayvon and that was the end of it.

Zimmerman is not going to prison. They gave him his gun back, and he still plans on carrying it around which is good. He certainly needs his gun back since so many people out there hate him. I don’t think people will go near him after the Trayvon shooting. If someone tried to attack him again ’cause of the verdict… I can see George doing “self defense” again. Registered permits. Right to Bear arms. That’s what the 2nd Amendment is for is to protect and defend yourself. George did the right thing and I’m sticking with it. I don’t care how many people I piss off. Don’t like it? Go F’ yourself. Thank you.

Kev

All about the Neighborhood Watch – Sanford, FL…

Where the hell are you guys getting all your sources from? Yes, there are various Neighborhood Watch programs all over the United States of America. However, each one have different rules and regulations. I have found the .pdf document for the official Neighborhood Watch in Sanford, FL.

I read this whole document from start to finish. No where in it where I saw that “following” or “confronting” wasn’t allowed.

On top of that check this out… from this link… here.

Look at Page 8, “Recognizing Suspicious Activity”, and I’ll list the things that might of what made George do what he had to do. Why he had to watch Trayvon and follow him… here are the things that made George do this, short list:

– Gathering (loitering) for an extended or unusual period of time. Possible burglary, arson, or drug dealing. (Trayvon standing in people’s yards, walking in the grassy area, looking at people’s homes, I would call that loitering for sure)

– Behaving strangely. Possibly on drugs or illegal activity. (George saying, “He looks like he may be up to no good, like he’s on drugs or something”, staring at him, hands in his waistband, etc.)

– Going door to door, especially if someone goes to the rear of the residence. Possibly casing the neighborhood. (Walking along the grassy area, not the sidewalk, walking around corners, walking back, etc. )

The Neighborhood Watch is just for “extra” eyes and ears. Police can’t be around all the time. That’s why George had no choice but to shoot the kid ’cause there was no time for the police to rush over to see what Trayvon was up to. Use a little common sense right?

Also in that document. I don’t see anywhere where it says guns aren’t allowed either. Why? “Stand Your Ground” is key.

So there you go. George didn’t do anything criminal. He did all the right things. Sorry, but you clowns aren’t gonna get me.

Kev

George Zimmerman himself explains the whole shooting incident in this reenactment… watch and learn…

The stuff that was proven in the GZ trial pretty much matches the descriptions in this video. Watch and learn. Watch from start to finish. Yeah, George had every right to do what he did.

You can put him in trial as many times as you please but the results will remain the same, he will still walk out an innocent man.

Kev

Hmmmm…. an interesting revelation about Trayvon Martin…

Rachel Jeantel, a witness who testified at the Trayvon trial was on the Pierse Morgan show, and she said the reason Trayvon reacted violently ’cause he feared that Zimmerman might have been a gay rapist. Trayvon thought Zimmerman was following him ’cause he was planning to rape him or something. Rush Limbaugh went onto his radio show and said that Trayvon may have been a homophobe.

More on the story, here.

Everyone wants to mistakenly believe that Trayvon was an angel and this sweet little harmless little boy that the media makes him out to be but really? Come on. Rush Limbaugh may not be everyone’s favorite radio host (not mine either) but what he said makes a whole lot of sense and for once, I agree with him. You don’t attack someone if you think he might be gay and Trayvon may have been a gay basher.

That could have what made Trayvon brutally attack George.

Trayvon was no little angel people. He was a punk little kid. Someday, America will wake up and realize it once too much information gets out there.

Kev

MLK Jr. days… De Ja Vu???

Are we up for another race war? It seems so. Back in the MLK Jr. days… the blacks were fighting for Civil Rights Movement. Now it seems they are fighting for something else. I wonder what Dr. King Jr. would have thought of this if he were around today.

Anyway, here is a writer who wrote his thoughts on the Zimmerman verdict and this writer named Mychal Massie is a black dude by the way, and even he thinks GZ is an innocent man. He also knows Trayvon’s death was his fault and brought it upon himself.

Read Mychal’s thoughts here:

Mychal Massie: “The ugly fact so many are unwilling to acknowledge is that Trayvon Martin would be alive today if he had behaved himself like the sacrosanct individual he is now portrayed to have been.  His conscious decision to attack George Zimmerman epitomizes the street thug mentality he embraced and that decision cost him his life.  Regardless of what the media and other race-mongers would try to have us believe, it is inconsistent with appropriate behavior to physically assault someone because you do not like that they are following you.  I applaud the jury for taking the facts of the trial into account and rendering the only verdict possible — George Zimmerman is not guilty of the charges brought against him.”

All the Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman case really did is ignite another race war. Check out Mychal’s site. He’s a good writer and knows what he’s talking about. Even he’s disgusted about what’s going on.

Yeah, it was pretty predictable that blacks are gonna start rallies which are going on right now in NYC and other cities in the USA. I’m reading stuff in facebook about the riots that they are getting violent and hateful toward the whites as expected. Burning American flags and wrecking buildings and all.

MLK days revisited indeed!

Like I said before, nobody’s gonna prove his guilt no matter how many times you put Zimmerman in trial. Even Obama/Holder won’t put him in prison.

I don’t see anything wrong with me siding with GZ. I’m certainly not alone on this as there are many others that are with me too.

In order to prove George’s guilt… you need hard evidence to prove it. I mean, “hard evidence”. They weren’t able to prove his guilt in the last trial ’cause there were no hard evidence… at least… not yet anyway. If the upcoming courts can somehow prove Zimmerman’s guilt… then I’ll believe that he should be sent to prison for life. As long as they keep proving his self defense… then I’ll stay on his side.

A lot of people are bringing the Marissa Alexander case into this, and I’ll get to that in another post sometime this week. Of course those idiots Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are going to jump in and help.  They just want more publicity and attention for themselves.

See? I’m not racist. I respect Mychal Massie’s work and am a fan of his writing. Check out his facebook page too if you want… he’s an interesting guy. I also believe Dr. Conrad Murray killed Michael Jackson. M.J. was born a black guy until the bad plastic surgery turned him into white.

We got another race war here folks, and it isn’t going to end anytime soon. It also wouldn’t surprise me that Obama will give all his power and money to put Zimmerman behind bars no matter if he’s proven innocent. Just ask Bradley Manning… he knows.

I know I said I was going to stop these postings for a while but I actually got some positive feedback from a few followers and said I was doing a good job. I feel that I need my voice heard just like I do with the Obama stuff. I know this stuff is gonna get people to not like me anymore and will get me in trouble but I speak the truth no matter the consequences. I’m not afraid of it.

Kev

Final thoughts on the Zimmerman/Martin case and I’ll shut up about this for a while…

Final thoughts on the Zimmerman/Martin case and then I’m gonna shut up about this for a while…

There’s a few things that people aren’t understanding about any of this. A lot of people are saying that George Zimmerman should have stayed out of things and let the police handle it if Trayvon Martin was doing something suspicious. People are also saying that George Zimmerman had no right to act like the police or the hero of the town.

Let me correct you on a couple of things:

1. Yes, it is okay to catch people doing suspicious things. When you see people in public doing something suspicious that’s when it’s okay to call it in to police. If you see kids in the street planning to break into someone’s home or if you see a drug deal going on or if you see kids about ready to fight each other… it’s okay to call it in. Law enforcement welcomes this stuff. They’re usually happy when people report suspicious things or committing a crime… that’s what law enforcement is here for. They’re here to protect people and to make us safe.

2. George had all his right to help stop criminals and to help protect the town that he lives in. These things happen every day in America. People have fought crime themselves. People have stopped crimes using guns and they are usually hailed as a hero when they do. The police usually don’t arrest this person as they understand that they were just trying to protect themselves and their loved ones. Even if people do get arrested for fighting crime… they are usually acquitted later in trial.

Another thing, George WAS gonna let the police deal with it. George was on the phone with 911 before the shooting happened. It was reported that there was a police car on the way to check it out and even George told 911 to get the police where he is at to check out Trayvon Martin.

You see, all George wanted to do was to check out what Trayvon Martin was up to. It was raining at the time. Trayvon was walking with a hoodie, looked like he maybe stoned on drugs, and walking around looking at people’s homes as if he was about ready to break into one of them. I would say that would be pretty suspicious to me.

Another thing you don’t understand is that George is the coordinator of the Neighborhood Watch Program at Twin Lakes in Sanford. That’s part of his job. To make sure the small little community is safe. He has stopped criminals in that area before and he even stopped a loose pit bull. He was just trying to protect that little area.

If Trayvon wanted to live… like I said before, he should have acted like a grown up and waited for the police to come but instead Trayvon resisted. A lot of people are also saying that George should have fought back like a man instead of using a gun. Well, I’m sure George tried to fight back. He couldn’t. From the trial, sounds like Trayvon held George down pretty good. He was slamming George’s head into the sidewalk so how the hell can George fight back?

With Trayvon on top of George in an MMA styled kind of fight there was no time for George to call the police again or to yell for help. So that gave George no choice but to shoot that little thug. If George didn’t pull out that gun, then Trayvon would have kept slamming his head into the sidewalk until he died. Then Trayvon would have been in trial for murder instead.

What’s bothering me about this is that Trayvon Martin was a little thug and so many people support him. I’m not saying that he deserved what he got ’cause of his criminal past… I’m saying he deserved what he got for reacting violently toward George. Trayvon was on school suspension for graffiti, marijuana and many other bad things. So why would so many people feel sorry for this kid?

No matter how many times George goes to trial or no matter how many lawsuits he gets out of this… nobody will be able to prove his guilt. It will remain the same every time. He will walk out an innocent man. Why was George found NOT GUILTY? Because the trial couldn’t prove his guilt. Pure and simple. No proof to prove his guilt. All the prosecutor did was just a bunch of stupid, “What if’s” and “maybes”.

The defense team proved his innocence pretty well and sure enough… people will think George Zimmerman got away with it. Just get over it people. Accept things for what they are and just move on. Just admit you would do the same thing if you were in this situation. If your life was being threatened, you have every right to use self defense to save your own life and save other people.

The defendant always seems to be the guilty one no matter what. Remember, all suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Unfortunately, people see it the other way around these days.

Yes, there’s going to be riots, rallys and it wouldn’t surprise me if President Obama will help do whatever it takes to get Zimmerman behind bars.

Violence and crime happens all over the United States of America — all of the time, and I don’t see why this needs to be such a huge news story. These things happen, ya know?

George should be really hailed as a hero for this and not as a monster. I don’t feel ashamed of saying it either as I really mean that. This story is proof that racism is still a problem in America.

This is how I feel about this whole thing.

Kev