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Is the Black Sabbath vs. Bill Ward feud over? They’ve buried the hatchet and Bill back in the band for final tour?

Ever since this feud has been going on, Black Sabbath has been cropping Bill Ward out of their band photos and finally here is a Sabbath band photo with Bill not being cropped out this time. Is this a hint that Sabbath vs. Bill Ward feud is over? Has the hatchet been buried finally? Did the band have negotiations with Bill behind the scenes to give him that “signable contract” that Bill wanted? Is Bill gonna be the drummer for the final tour of Sabbath? That’s what it’s looking like. This photo is a pretty good indication that Bill maybe back in the band again but we’ll wait and see.

Kev

Ozzy still hopes Bill Ward will be part of the upcoming farewell reunion…

Black Sabbath is not quite finished with their career yet. They have one last album and one last tour in the works; however, the band still wants Bill Ward to be a part of it. The reason? Ozzy simply wants the four original members to finish what they started.

Bill bailed out on the last reunion ’cause he complained that he didn’t get a negotiable contract so Sabbath went ahead without him. Why? Why did Sabbath go ahead without Bill Ward and didn’t give him what he requested? Was Bill asking for too much money? That’s probably it!

Like most fans, I’m hoping they bring Bill back ’cause Sabbath deserves to go out with it’s founding members. I’m sure Bill still can kill it on the drums. I just wish he would stop being so strict and greedy. It’s just music, Bill!!! Who needs a negotiable contract!!! Just go up there and play!!! The end!!!

Kev

Black Sabbath reveals track listing for new album, “13”…

Black Sabbath (minus, Bill Ward), have revealed the track listing for their new upcoming album titled, “13”. The track listing is listed, here.

A lot of people are disappointed that the album have only 8 songs. If you really think that, then you must be a new fan of Black Sabbath. Almost every Black Sabbath album over the past 20 years, only had like 7 or 8 songs. Why? Because Tony and the guys always liked to jam. They’re not just about the songwriting parts. They’re about jamming and improvisation. The songs progresses as they go along. They still have that method of making music to this day. A CD can only have like 60 or 70 minutes worth of music, so they can only fit in songs that would fit the time enough perfectly.

Black Sabbath is also getting a lot of, “No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath”, comments from the fans everywhere. To those who say that, also must be a newbie. I’ve said repeatedly that this is not the first time for Black Sabbath, their feud with Bill Ward. Bill has been difficult toward the guys for years. The guys in Sabbath has been trying to get together with Bill for the past 20 years or so, it’s just that he’s never interested. Why can’t people understand that Bill is just a greedy son of a bitch? He’s an egotist; all he cares about is the money. Stop blaming Sharon Osbourne for this ’cause that’s so absurd.

Black Sabbath is the type of band that when a member leaves, either quit or been fired, they’ve always been the, “the show must go on”, type. So yes, the show must go on. So the band says, “Fuck, Bill Ward”, and they’re moving on without him. Despite Bill Ward, not being part of this reunion, it’s still gonna be a sick and heavy album. I’m looking forward to hearing it!

That’s what a band gets for staying together for this long. Fans will get all kinds of misinformation from them, in this day and age. The band unfairly gets blamed for Bill bailing out, when they have nothing to do with it; this was all Bill’s doing himself. The band are always willing to have Bill play with them whenever he wants, Bill just needs to stop being a greedy asshole. Fuck Bill. Let him go. This is still gonna be a cool album, and I’m looking forward to it!

Kev

“No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath”??? Get over it and get used to it!!!!

I’m getting real tired of the “No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath” responses in facebook. In facebook, you see a lot of “No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath” in various facebook fan pages. Through the official Black Sabbath facebook, Tony Iommi facebook, Guitar World magazine facebook, etc. Any music news website that reports Black Sabbath, the fans will reply back, “No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath”. While the news reporters online, do a good job keeping up to date with this back and forth feud, the fans are a bunch of assholes and don’t know much about music.

In defense of Black Sabbath, bands move on, bands change. No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath? Why don’t you say, “No John Bonham, No Led Zeppelin” when they reunited for the O2 show a few years back. Why don’t you say “No Bon Scott, No Ac/Dc”. Why don’t you say, “No Layne Staley, No Alice in Chains”. Why don’t you say, “No Cliff Burton, No Metallica”. Why don’t you say, “No Hilel Slovak, No Red Hot Chilli Peppers”. Why don’t you say, “No Ace Frehley, No Kiss”. Why don’t you say, “No Marty Friedman, No Megadeth”. “Why don’t you say, “No Keith Moon or John Entwistle, No the Who”.

All those bands, I listed above, continued on without their well known members. Their well known members that were the star of the band either died or left, but they all continued the band anyway with various members over the years. Bands change and evolve. I believe all those fans that say, “No Bill Ward, No Black Sabbath” are new fans who are young, who don’t know much about the history of rock too well. Especially the history of Sabbath, who went through too many different members over the years. They just don’t understand it.

Even Bill himself is cool with Black Sabbath going on without him. He even wished them good luck on their upcoming gigs on his website. Bill didn’t demand a high payment that the band couldn’t afford, he said it wasn’t true. He said his payment request was fair, and affordable. All he’s asking for is something “sign-able”, something official. Bill’s requests were pretty simple, and I’m sure it’s easy to give him what he wants. For some reason Sabbath is being difficult on him. I’m not sure of all this legal bullshit, so I don’t know anything about that stuff, but like I said before, all this stuff is behind the scenes of the music business. Bill has his own reasons for making this public. He has his own reasons for backing out of the reunion. The point of this post, is that bands don’t stay together with the same members forever. Except for U2, which is one of the only bands who have the same members for years to this day.

This wasn’t the first time, Bill and Black Sabbath had a public feud. They had one way back in 2006, when Tony asked Bill to play drums with Heaven & Hell, with Ronnie James Dio as the frontman. Bill was on board for that project at first, but later bailed due to musical differences. See? These guys had problems for years. They have no personal hatred against each other, it’s all business, behind the scenes bullshit. Sabbath is used to playing with different people over the years.

This feud is just proof that the music industry is a sleazy business. Are you sure you bands out there really want the fame?

Kev

Report: Black Sabbath refuses to respond to Bill Ward’s statement and vows to go on without him…

The show must go on, right? With or without Bill. They certainly don’t screw around with anyone’s drama that’s for sure.

Read Sabbath’s about Bill’s statement, here.

Whether, Bill is right or wrong, Sabbath is gonna put on a rockin’ performance. I do agree that the band will sound different without Bill, but they’re still gonna do great. They’re still gonna rock your socks off.

I’m sure the band will release a live DVD/CD of their upcoming three performances sometime in the future. I’m a huge Sabbath fan, always has been. I loved both Ozzy and RJD eras. Of course, I loved the Ozzy era more like most people.

Kev

Report: Bill Ward, drummer of Black Sabbath, releases statement that he’s not playing the upcoming three shows…doesn’t mean he’s done with Sabbath for good though…

Bill Ward, the drummer for Black Sabbath, released a long statement on his website, announcing the official news that he will not be playing the upcoming three Black Sabbath shows, with the original members. Sabbath is scheduled to play three upcoming shows: Their hometown Birmingham show, Download, and of course, Lollapalooza. He is still upset about not receiving an official sign-able contract. Plus, he is upset that he was asked to only play on three songs at the Birmingham gig, when he would rather perform on the entire gig. Lots of other reasons, why he wants no part of these shows.

Read Bill’s blog on it, here.

I’m sure Bill’s fans are hating on him for this, and I’m sure Sharon’s getting the blame. I was gonna bash him for it too, but after reading this intelligent blog, I understand him. It’s a pretty well written blog, explaining his reasons behind things.

I agree there’s no Black Sabbath reunion without Bill Ward, but come on people. I’ve said it plenty of times that Sabbath went through too many different drummers over the years. I’m sure they’re used to replacing somebody and they’ll find somebody quickly. No matter who replaces, Bill Ward, Black Sabbath is going to put on a fucking amazing performance. They’ll put on a tight show, no matter who the drummer is. I’m sure they’ll kill it with no problem and leave the crowd wanting some more.

On top of all this, Black Sabbath deserves some positive vibes after what Tony is going through with his cancer and all. These three, Sabbath shows could be their last ever. When Tony dies, Sabbath is done. In my eyes, there is no Black Sabbath without Tony Iommi. He can replace other members if he wants to but Tony can’t be replaced. Tony even had other bass players other than Geezer Butler over the years too. Tony can’t be replaced ’cause HE IS Black Sabbath. Bill, Ozzy, and Geezer maybe SABBATH too, but everything is all Tony. He is the star and the main guy of the band. Without his distinct guitar sound and his excellent riffs, that’s not Black Sabbath. As long as Tony is in the band, it’s still Black Sabbath, no matter who is in it.

I’m sure the other guys in the band, are not heartbroken about Bill’s departure, they had problems with the guy for years, so this is nothing NEW!

Kev

 

Black Sabbath understandably cancels tour and will just play Download Festival only…

I hate to be the one to say this but I have a bad feeling that Tony could be the next one to go this year. Lymphoma is a hard cancer to fight. All we can do now is give him all the love and support that he needs. I feel sorry for the guys in Black Sabbath. I’ve always LOVED Black Sabbath no matter who was in the band. I love everything Tony Iommi did ’cause he is one of my favorite guitarists who I followed pretty religiously. The guy is a riff master at the guitar and he’s a phenomenal lead guitarist too.

Black Sabbath announced the other day that the band canceled their tour, and instead it will be an Ozzy solo tour. I’m sure Ozzy will have Tony and the guys play with him on some dates on his tour, that’s why he called it, “Ozzy & Friends”, I believe.

I feel bad for Tony. Sabbath just got back together, Bill Ward started all this drama with them and now Tony has cancer. Fuck.

It seems like it happens with Sabbath all the time. Whenever they get together, something bad happens. I’m sure they’re used to it by now, ’cause all bands have ups & downs in their careers. All bands deal with setbacks. Just because bands are big legends, doesn’t mean they get good stuff all the time, ya know? Shit happens.

I hope they’ll be recording their Download Performance and videotaping it so they can release it on CD/DVD/Blu Ray for all of us Sabbath fans. Download Fest could be their final and last performance.

It would be cool if they can resolve things with Bill so he can play on the Download too ’cause I agree, it’s not a Sabbath reunion without him.

Kev

Report: Sharon Osbourne fired Bill Ward from Sabbath? That’s what really happened?

MetalTalk.net, was the first to bring up the news that Sharon Osborne was responsible for firing Bill Ward from, Black Sabbath. I call it a bullshit rumor for now. Everyone loves to blame it on Sharon, but it doesn’t make any sense that Sharon would fire members from, Black Sabbath. I mean, the only person who makes the decisions on who stays and who goes in the band is none other than, Tony Iommi. Tony does the hiring and firing. Not Sharon. Tony owns the band and has complete control.

Everyone likes to assume that Sharon has complete control. No, Sharon has nothing to do with Sabbath. She’s only in charge of Ozzy’s solo career.

Yep, once something bad happens in Sabbath, all the tabloids on the internet will start making shit up. Don’t believe everything you read.

More on the story, here.

Kev

Report: Bill Ward, thanks fans for support, after Black Sabbath decided to move on without him…

Black Sabbath posted this message on their facebook page last Friday:

“We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans…we have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open… We are still in the UK with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll… See you at Download!!!

– Tony, Ozzy and Geeze”

Bill posted this message on his site yesterday, read it, here.

Even if Sabbath welcomed Bill to come back to the band whenever he wanted, I think Bill just wanted to get payed a lot of money that everyone else couldn’t afford to pay him. People on the internet are blaming the labels, they’re blaming Sharon, etc. Sorry people, but there is no one to blame but Bill himself. He is being an ego driven greedy douche. This was all his decision.

If you knew Black Sabbath’s history, Bill had trouble sticking with the band for years. Read Tony’s book, “Iron Man”, it’s all there. Most fans are upset that the drummer could get replaced. Again, more evidence that there’s a lot of new & young fans out there who don’t know much about Black Sabbath. Sabbath went through so many members over the years, so I’m sure they are used to replacing musicians by now. They would have no trouble replacing somebody as I’m sure Ozzy & Tony would find somebody quickly.

My question is, did Bill already start recording drum tracks for the new album? Will they keep his drum tracks or scrap ’em for the replacement drummer?

I support Bill, yes, because he is a phenomenal drummer, but I won’t deny the fact that he is being greedy and all he cares about is money here. It wouldn’t surprise me if Tony ends up getting, Vinny Appice back.

Kev

Report: Bill Ward, Black Sabbath drummer, may pull out of reunion due to unsignable contract issues…

The original Black Sabbath drummer, Bill Ward, wrote on his official blog, that he may pull out of the Black Sabbath reunion with original members, that was originally announced on, 11/11/11. He is claiming that he never got a signable contract. He said he will stick to the reunion, if the other guys in the band gives him a signable contract.

More on the story, here.

Bill is just bullshitting like usual. To the fans that are new to Black Sabbath, this wasn’t the first time he bailed out on a reunion. He’s done it plenty of times before. Also, if you read Tony Iommi’s book, “Iron Man”, Tony said that Bill Ward was always a difficult man to deal with. Bill had trouble staying committed to the band in the past. He’s just a selfish and greedy man. I think Bill is all about the money, and not the music. Disrespectful to Tony who now has cancer.

Who needs Bill. Let him go. As long as we have Ozzy and Geezer back, that’s all we need. Some of you may say, no Bill, no Black Sabbath reunion? True that but drummers can always be replaced ’cause they’re not that really important.

I’ve said it before in the blog, that something might happen with Black Sabbath in the future, and I was right. Bill and Tony always had a hard time getting along and it’s still happening.

Kev

EDIT TO ADD: I meant to say, “Bill had trouble trying to stay committed to the band”, not Tony. My bad.