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Pro wrestling legend, Scott Hall passes away this week… another good one gone…

Yesterday, the wrestling world lost a wrestling legend. Scott Hall aka Razor Ramon in WWE and went by his own name in WCW. Scott had a fall and broke his hip. Had hip replacement surgery and then suffered three heart attacks after. Then he got put on life support and when they couldn’t do anything for him, they took him off life support and later he passed on which happened yesterday.

Scott had many problems in his life but he was a legend in the wrestling business and helped changed it over the years. Scott never won a world title in WWE and WCW at all but he accomplished a lot of things. He held other belts like he was 4 time Intercontinental Champ which is a belt for the mid-carders. I’m sure he had other belts in WCW too, he just never won a world champ when he absolutely should have.

Scott had that classic ladder match with HBK at Wrestlemania 10, he was there for the formation of the NWO in WCW during the “Third Man” reveal, he was also there when Hall returned to the WWE later in the years to help debut the NWO… McMahon’s “Lethal dose of poison”.

Later on in the years, Scott Hall tried to improve his life by doing yoga with Diamond Dallas Page and Jake “The Snake” Roberts. DDP tried to help him get sober… maybe that’s another reason so many respect Scott Hall so much ’cause he tried.

I know I respect him. He was a great wrestler and great mic worker. Definitely one of the best heels in the business.

Yeah, Scott definitely had a lot of problems but still, he was a legend and from what I’m hearing, he was a good guy. A good guy to other wrestlers and he was good to his fans too. Always took the time for selfies and a chat each time he was approached in public. He definitely loved his fan base that’s for sure.

RIP bad guy… we lost another great one.

Kev

Hulk Hogan posts new NWO video along with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash… teasing WWE return???

I know some wrestling fans are sick of the NWO and think they’re old and washed up… blah blah blah. Ya know something? NWO 4 Life isn’t just a slogan. It means they’ll always be around. NWO has been a wrestling faction for 22 years like Hulk’s tweet said and as you can see, they still haven’t changed. Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash still look really good together.

Remember, the NWO made their debut in WCW. I’ve been watching a lot of WCW Nitro and I watched the formation of the NWO and it’s very interesting stuff. It all started out with Kevin Nash and Scott aka The Outsiders and they were teasing a third member which they didn’t name for a while. The third man turned out to be Hulk Hogan. The NWO made their formation at the Bash at the Beach ppv in 1996. Yeah, that was 22 years ago and the NWO are still around as you can see. Remember, NWO4Life.

Are they about to make a big WWE return? It seems like it. They are definitely teasing something. Remember, the WWE owns the copyrights and trademarks to the NWO gimmick and the name. The guys can’t use the NWO gimmick anywhere else so it’s definitely seems like they’re making their way back to WWE. Could they make their return at Summerslam this Sunday??? We’ll have to wait and see.

I’m a huge fan of NWO, though. I’ve been watching a lot of WCW Monday Nitro on the WWE Network. Once I finish watching WCW Nitro then I’ll start watching all the old WCW ppvs. I’m almost a 100 episodes in WCW Nitro and still got a lot more to go. WCW is pretty historic stuff. I’m glad Vince McMahon bought WCW. If he didn’t then we wouldn’t be able to watch old WCW on streaming services. WCW wrestling is fucking awesome. Wished I watched it on TV back then.

Kev

When Hulk Hogan returns to WWE television on RAW or Smackdown, will there still be a place for him in today’s WWE? Yes! There will be plenty for him to do!

Hulk Hogan is an icon in wrestling but at the same time, he is admittedly one of the most controversial personalities in the industry. He is one of those who you either love or hate. Through the wrestling forums and the blogs, there’s an assumption that there is no place for Hogan in today’s WWE. That’s an assumption made by the haters, of course. They make claims that there is nothing for him to do in today’s generation of wrestling. They’re saying stuff that if Hogan returns no one will care for him anymore due to his negative and controversial past in the news. They are also saying that there is nothing for Hogan to do creatively with the new WWE roster.

I would say all that is a bunch of bullshit. Ya see, Hogan gets a lot of bad press in the national news and even the wrestling smart sites give him bad press too and its sad that a lot of wrestling fans believe the stuff they about him. I think the wrestling news media are in a desperate attempt to destroy the man too. Love him or hate him all you want to… you can destroy the man all you want to but you can’t get rid of Hulkmania. Ya just can’t ’cause Hulkamania will always be around. You can try and tarnish Hulk’s legacy all you want but it will never happen. Hulk is too big of an icon in wrestling and the man is still extremely popular.

If you want evidence that Hulk Hogan is still popular with fans, if you watch RAW, SD and the ppvs lately, you’ll see a lot of fans in the audience wearing Hulk Hogan wrestling gear — there are also fans who go as far as dressing up like him at live wrestling events. There are also a lot of fans that still wear nWo shirts after all these years. If you go to Hulk’s twitter page, he’s always posting videos of him meeting lots of fans. So yeah, wrestling fans still love Hulk Hogan and I think they will welcome him back to WWE TV with open arms. You can hate the man all you want to but Hulk Hogan is still a huge draw. Watch for it… when he returns to RAW or SD (which ever show WWE chooses to put him on), I’m pretty positive the ratings will go up a bit.

As for what there is for Hogan to do when he comes back to WWE TV, there’s plenty. I think a one more match is a possibility and they’ll probably put Hogan in a GM role. Hogan would be a good general manger for either RAW or Smackdown.

I think Hogan returning in today’s WWE with all the new superstars would be a good opportunity for them. It’ll be a good opportunity for them all to perform with a legend for one. All those new stars got into the business ’cause of Hulk Hogan pretty much.

Debating people about Hulk Hogan is pretty tough ’cause he has a mix of fans and lots of haters. Don’t debate about Hulk with the haters ’cause they’ll always have negative opinions about him no matter what is being said. Yep, Hulk is still very popular with the fans and that’s what all the wrestling smart news sites don’t want you to know about. Yeah, I’m a huge wrestling nerd but I hate all them wrestling news sites online. I think Dave Meltzer is an asshole and I don’t like his reporting at all. They’re all pretty bad really. The reason a lot of wrestling news sites out there are negative with Hulk Hogan is ’cause it helps draw in traffic with Hogan haters. That’s why they won’t stop the bad press on him.

Hulk is a legend and an icon and anyone who denies that is a stupid fuckin’ jealous idiot. I really do think a lot of people hate the man out of pure jealousy and nothing more. I mean, think about it right? Hulk is a 12 time champion — won 6 titles in WCW and won 6 titles in WWE… he also won the tag team titles with Edge once. Hulk accomplished a lot and he became a very rich man due to his wrestling career and his acting career. He’s a movie star too. Despite all the negativity and backlash he gets, he’s doing pretty well for himself.

If Hulk Hogan does happen to have one last match in WWE, who would he wrestle against??? It would probably be against a WWE veteran or one of the newer stars. Maybe Hulk can have a match with Triple H or Brock Lesnar. If he’s going to have a match with one of the new stars, I would say either Braun Strowman or Roman Reigns. Even better, they should put him against John Cena. Hulk Hogan vs. John Cena would be cool ’cause that’s a dream match that never happened and should happen. There’s a lot of speculation out there that Hogan will never have one more match due to his age and his back problems but ya never know. I think they’ll figure something out for him.

Hulkamania still rules. Don’t listen to the haters.

Kev

Hulk Hogan celebrates his WWE Hall of Fame re-induction with fans in Clearwater, Florida… William Shatner should take note on how to treat fans in public…

Ya see, William Shatner should take note from Hulk Hogan on how to treat fans in public ’cause Hulk knows how to do it right! In this video, the Hulkster celebrates his re-induction into the WWE Hall of Fame with fans in Clearwater, Florida. The Hulkster stands out in the street taking selfies with fans of all types. Hulk takes the time to chat with every fan, smiling and being nice to them all.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1DXxyYZLgAgxM

Hulk Hogan seems like a very nice guy to me as you can see in the video. I don’t know what the haters are talking about. Hulk  is very good with his fans and always has been.

Despite all the bad publicity and hatred Hulk gets in his life, he’s still very popular as you can see.

I’m glad to see the Hulkster being very happy again ’cause he does look very happy in that video. Hulk had a difficult past several years so he deserves to be happy again. There are always people trying to destroy this man and here he is still standing strong.

Hulk is not a racist and this video should be good enough to prove that ’cause Hulk is seen here taking selfies with black people too and even talking to them.

I’m glad Hulk is back in the Hall of Fame. Now hopefully he’ll be back on RAW soon.

Kev

Why the wrestling community is so dumb and messed up… more on Hulk Hogan being on good terms with WWE again…

It is interesting how the wrestling community treats Hulk Hogan. Yeah, there are a lot of Hogan haters in the wrestling community. Why? Many Hogan haters see him as this conceited and arrogant jerk. In other words, many see him as an egomaniac. They also believe he’s a toxic person in the wrestling industry and in real life. Many people believe that Hulk Hogan buried other wrestlers in the industry and destroyed them… that is probably why he has so many other wrestlers that hate Hulk too like Bret Hart, Iron Sheik, Honky Tonk Man and wrestlers such as those. You see, Hogan had haters long before the Gawker controversy started.

There are many other reasons why a lot of people can’t stand Hulk. They can’t stand him as an in-ring performer too. He gets criticized for his wrestling skills and mic work all the time. A lot of people think he knows only a few wrestling moves and many thinks he’s too old to be wrestling. There are too many reasons why a lot of people can’t stand Hulk, I can go on all day about this.

Look, I used to hate Hulk Hogan like everyone else but I don’t anymore. Why? Not only that I think he’s innocent from all this sex tape stuff going on, I’m beginning to realize that Hulk Hogan is not a bad man that the haters are trying to make him out to be. He really is not a bad guy at all. He seems like a nice man from what I’m seeing. Hulk is good with the fans and he’s good with other wrestlers too. Hulk never tried to buy other talent like the haters claimed. He always did his best to help put others over. I mean, if it wasn’t for Hulk Hogan we wouldn’t have gotten all these other iconic wrestlers over the years: The Ultimate Warrior, Rowdy Piper, Andre, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker, etc. Without Hulk Hogan, we wouldn’t have gotten those guys I listed.

Whether you like him or not, Hulk Hogan is definitely one of the best in the business ’cause he’s the one who put the wrestling business on the map in the first place. He had many classic matches over the years and the haters will never admit that.

Ever since the announcement came out that Hulk was going to be reinstated back in the WWE Hall of Fame after this sex tape stuff, all the haters say the WWE shouldn’t be doing that ’cause there are many who believes that Hulk Hogan is a racist. Well gee… keep in mind that these wrestling fans were the same people who love Chris Benoit. Ya know, the man who murdered his own family and killed himself after, yet a lot of wrestling fans continue to love Benoit. Wrestling fans continued to support a murderer and yet they all continue to treat Hulk Hogan badly.

WWE female wrestlers like Paige got sex videos and nude pics leaked to the internet but she got no negative backlash for that. Instead, people defended her. Those pervy male wrestling fans loved the Paige sex videos and nude pics and they wanted more.

Yet Hulk Hogan is treated badly over a sex tape. Really?

I don’t like the wrestling community at all even if I’m a wrestling nerd ’cause wrestling fans on the internet are nothing but douchebags. That’s why I try to stay away from the wrestling forums online, ya know? The “smart” fans in the wrestling forums are horrible. They’re always opinionated and negative.

Hulk is not a bad man at all and I think this is a guy who deserves more respect knowing what he did to the wrestling industry over the years. It’s sad that the haters can’t admit that. I really do think the haters are so-hell bent on destroying the guy and obsessed with him ’cause they are jealous of his wrestling legacy. Nothing more. Nothing less. They want the life that he has and they know they can’t get it.

Don’t get me wrong, though. What Hulk said on the racist tape was wrong and offensive, no doubt but all of us make mistakes and we all say dumb things. We just got to learn from the mistakes and move on from them. That’s what Hulk is trying to do.

I feel Hogan, though ’cause knowing my own experience, I know what it’s like to go through bad publicity and go through a negative backlash. I’ve been there myself. It’s hard being a public figure, I know it. I guess one of the reasons I’m back to supporting Hogan again is ’cause I feel sorry for the guy, I really do. Hulk changed wrestling for everybody whether he was a good guy wrestler or a bad guy wrestler. He’s one of the best performers of all time. He changed lives for a lot of people out there including mine. I guess you have to watch what you say or do no matter what ’cause the internet is a dangerous place. I’ve been destroyed over stupid shit online myself. I just learned to move on from it and keep moving forward.

Hulk is a good guy. Don’t judge the book by it’s cover. I don’t think he deserves all this hatred at all. Just a bunch of bitter losers jealous of him ’cause he’s a wrestling icon. End of story.

Kev

 

 

 

Watched “Extreme Rules” ppv last night… no Hulk Hogan return yet but I’m sure he’ll be back soon…

So I watched “Extreme Rules” WWE ppv last night on the WWE Network. The ppv was pretty bad. The only good match last night was Braun Strowman vs. Kevin Owens in a Cage Match but other than that, the rest of the ppv was boring and stale. Can I get my almost 4 hours back?

Anyways, no Hulk Hogan appearance but I read he was backstage at the show just visiting and hanging out. Will Hulk appear on RAW tonight, though? I doubt it ’cause doing a little reading through wrestling news sites, Hogan hasn’t signed a new contract with WWE yet but I’m sure he will pretty soon. It’s looking like Hulk, WWE and Vince are back on good terms which is good. There’s a pretty good chance that Hulk Hogan is definitely coming back to WWE later this year or next year. I hope Hogan shows up sooner, though. I predict he could show up sometime before Summerslam. If not Summerslam then it could be the next Royal Rumble in 2019 where he could make it as a surprise entrant.

I think what the Hulkster is trying to do is that he wants to retire in his wrestling career on a positive note. He doesn’t want to end it in a negative note. He didn’t want to end it over this Gawker and sex tape stuff, ya know? Hulk Hogan deserves to end his career on a positive note ’cause he’s a wrestling legend whether you like him or not. He helped popularized pro wrestling and made it mainstream. Without Hogan, wrestling wouldn’t have been on TV. If it wasn’t for Hulk, there wouldn’t have been no WCW, ECW, TNA Impact and even no WWE. The thing is, there are always jealous and bitter haters trying to destroy Hulk and his wrestling legacy. Hulk is just doing whatever it takes to protect his legacy and I can’t blame him. Love him or hate him all you want to, Hulkamania is pretty huge and iconic. His wrestling career in the past was pretty special for him and special for the fans too, of course.

When Hulk returns to the WWE, what he would do on RAW? I can think of 5 things…

  1. Have one more match – this is probably the big one and it’s what everyone is talking about. Hulk did say himself that he has some wrestling left in him and he wants to do one more match but with who, though? My guesses would be either John Cena, Braun Strowman, Brock Lesnar and maybe even Vince McMahon.
  2. Reform the NWO wrestling faction – the NWO were pretty huge in WCW and they made occasional comebacks in WWE. Are they about ready to reform in WWE again pretty soon? I wouldn’t be surprised. They don’t say “NWO 4 Life” for no reason, brotha. They’ll always be around!
  3. Become the next RAW General Manager after Kurt Angle – This could be another big possibility. Hulk being in charge of RAW after Kurt goes.
  4. Be a guest host for the next Wrestlemania – Hulk was guest host for Wrestlemania 30 and it’s definitely possible that he could be guest host on a WM again in the future.
  5. Go after the Universal Title — it doesn’t hurt for Hulk to be world Champ again for one more time. I think that’s a nice way for him to go out on a positive note. If Bill Goldberg won the Universal Champ then why can’t Hulk?

Those are my predictions and any one of them is pretty likely.

Yeah, a lot of people are trashing Hulk but they’re just jealous of him and bitter. Just people desperate for attention so you just ignore the haters and keep supporting Hulk. He deserves the support. I would like to buy a Hulk Hogan t-shirt at some point and I’ll have to buy something off his online store. Hulk still rules! Screw the haters!

Kev

 

The Hogan haters are out in full force on the internet today… Wow!!!!

I’m reading through some wrestling comments in the wrestling blogs and news sites today and I noticed the Hogan haters are out in full force. Since the news just got out that Hulk has been reinstated in the WWE Hall of Fame and he might make his on-screen return tonight at Extreme Rules, the haters are all mad.

Yes, there is this thing called “forgive and forget” but keep in mind not everybody is gonna “forgive and forget”. Haters are gonna hate, always. I think the only reason that the haters are raging mad now is ’cause they can’t accept the fact that Hogan won the big lawsuit over Gawker. I think they are mad at that just like liberals can’t accept the election results of 2016. Well get over it, Hogan haters. Hulk Hogan proved his innocence over the sex tape at the trial and did a nice job of it too. Like I said before, I used to hate and despise Hulk over the racist remarks myself but after paying attention to the trial and all that stuff… I began to think that maybe Hulk is innocent after all. Gawker just wanted to destroy and ruin Hulk; they failed obviously. Hulk is still standing and standing strong.

Hulk is trying to make amends to those he hurt including the WWE and the superstars. I believe in second chances and Hulk deserves one. I think what Hulk is doing is very courageous and ballsy.

It may seem that Hogan is one of the most hated wrestlers on the planet but the reality is, he isn’t. He’s still one of the most loved and most respected wrestlers today. Hulk Hogan has got a lot of fans still; he’s extremely popular.

Hulk is no racist and the haters needs to get the fuck over it. We all say dumb things and make mistakes every now and then even I do. I used to hate Hulk but I respect the man even more now. Love him or hate him, he’s a very strong guy. He doesn’t let negativity and drama bring him down and he knows how to stay above it.

Kev

Hulk Hogan officially reinstated in WWE Hall of Fame… will he make his on TV return at Extreme Rules ppv tonight?

WWE announced today that Hulk Hogan has officially been reinstated back in the WWE Hall of Fame after all the racist remarks made on the sex tape and all that stuff. I used to hate Hulk Hogan over that sex tape stuff but I don’t anymore. I believe in this thing called, “forgive and forget” and yes, I forgive Hulk Hogan. We all deserve second chances and he deserves one.

Now that Hulk Hogan is officially back in the WWE Hall of Fame, that means that the Hulkster could be coming back to WWE TV as soon as possible. Could he return tonight on “Extreme Rules” ppv?

Hulk posted this on twitter today so does this mean he is in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where the ppv is being taken place at?

I’m all for a Hulk Hogan return for WWE. Admittedly, I used to hate the man myself but I don’t anymore. I’m now realizing that he isn’t a bad man like many are trying to make him out to be.

Love him or hate him, Hulk is a wrestling legend. He is the one who helped popularized professional wrestling and if you deny that then I’m going to call you the dumbest person on the planet.

Will we see the Hulkster tonight on “Extreme Rules”? I’m going to watch and see. I’ve been watching a lot of old WCW Monday Nitro and I’ve been liking Hogan more and more. We all watch wrestling ’cause of him whether you want to admit it or not.

I also hope the Hulkster will get made as a playable character for the WWE 2k19 game ’cause I would buy if they put him in there this time ’cause that would be cool.

I’ll admit that I’m now a huge Hulk Hogan fan. Looking forward to “Extreme Rules” tonight. The ppv starts at 7  tonight so it’s gonna be a 4 hour ppv it looks like.

Kev

Is Hulk Hogan in talks with WWE to return? Rumors are now swirling…

Rumors are swirling around the internets that wrestling legend, Hulk Hogan is in talks with WWE so he can return to the company. In the past, WWE fired Hogan due to all the sex tape controversy and his battle with Gawker, but now that stuff is all over and done with it looks like Hulk and WWE are back on good terms again.

https://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/news/51311/WWE-Confirm-They-Are-In-Talks-With-Hulk-Hogan/

Hulk Hogan himself hasn’t confirmed the news on his twitter yet, so it’s a clue that he’s keeping his possible upcoming return to WWE a secret. If true, it looks like the WWE wants him in time before WM-34 in a few weeks.

I think there’s a good chance of it being true and Hulk will probably return to the company this year. Will he be at WM-34? Probably. I think he’ll be a WM guest host just like he was guest host for Wrestlemania 30.

Hogan says he wants to have one more match in WWE and I agree, he should have one more. If he did have one more match in WWE sometime soon, who would it be? Well I saw a Q & A video with Hulk Hogan himself and he says he wants his last match to be against Braun Strowman and I agree. That would be a great final match for Hulk.

Also, John Cena vs. Hulk Hogan needs to happen ’cause that’s a dream match that never happened in the past. Maybe Hogan can have a rematch with Vince McMahon ’cause I can see that happening for sure. Is Hogan coming back for one more match? Probably but I hope he wrestles more.

All the haters aren’t liking this idea of Hogan returning but hey, admit it. We all watch pro wrestling ’cause of Hulk Hogan and it’s strange how no one will admit that. Love him or hate him all you want to, Hogan is a wrestling icon and pioneer. He popularized the wrestling business. Without him, there would have been no WCW, ECW, TNA, ROH and all those independent wrestling companies. Like I said before, I used to hate Hogan in the past but I don’t anymore. He won my utmost respect back again.

I’ve been watching a lot of old WCW Monday Nitro on the WWE Network. I’m 51 episodes in and loving every bit of it. We wouldn’t get pro wrestling on TV if it wasn’t for Hogan, remember that. I’m a huge fan of Hogan now. He really is a pro wrestling genius and I think he deserves more respect.

Kev

Yes, Hulk Hogan got in trouble for using the N word and saying other racist things on the sex tape but he’s no racist, get over it…

It’s interesting how people never “forgive” and don’t get over things. Some never do which to me is pathetic. When it comes to Hulk Hogan not being at RAW 25, WWE is sticking to their guns and vowing to never allow Hogan back to the company. Well I think they need to learn to get over it.

Many in the wrestling community have already forgiven Hogan, but of course, there’s this other half that haven’t forgiven and there are still wrestling fans out there who still despise the man.

Yeah, Hulk Hogan said some pretty racist things on a sex tape… I’m not afraid to admit that, but he’s definitely not a racist, though. Don’t judge the book by its cover. When Hulk said those things, I’m pretty sure he didn’t mean it ’cause he was going through some pretty rough times in his life. I mean, think about it… Hulk was going through Nick’s car crash which killed another guy and Hulk had to deal with all kinds of legal bullshit through that. Then he was going through a heated divorce with his ex-wife Linda.

I remember before Roddy Piper died, he defended Hulk Hogan and said he’s no racist.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/27/rowdy-roddy-piper-hulk-hogan-n-word-racist-nick-hogan-crash/

Now Diamond Dallas Page is defending Hulk Hogan and says he’s no racist.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0124/636277/diamond-dallas-page-on-if-wwe-should-bring-back-hulk-hogan/

I agree that Hulk doesn’t have a racist bone in his body at all ’cause he’s a very popular wrestler in the black community. He’s got a lot of black fans for sure and he proved that on his twitter page. If Hulk was really racist then he wouldn’t have been a tag team partner with Mr. T back in the old days. I remember Hulk and Mr. T used to be best friends… not sure if they still are now.

Sometimes when you’re going through some tough times in your life, you make mistakes. Everybody makes them. Hulk Hogan is human… he’s real like all of us. I wish people would stop negatively judging the man.

It’s been proven through court that Gawker was set out to make Hogan look bad and they were desperate to destroy him. I know I sided with Gawker before admittedly but what I saw in that trial, my opinions and views on this started to change. I began to see that Hogan is innocent after all. Hogan won the Gawker battle and proved that they tried to bring him down.

There IS something called “forgive” and “forget”. If we can do it then so can WWE. I think WWE will bring Hogan back, maybe they need more time to think about it. I hope they bring him back ’cause love him or hate him, Hogan’s a wrestling legend. WWE can try to ignore the man all they want, but you can’t take his legacy away. Hogan helped popularized professional wrestling. He was the one who helped turn the WWF/WWE into a big industry.

I don’t know why Hogan has so much hatred. I used to hate him admittedly but I felt bad about it and I don’t hate him anymore. He won my respect back. He’s not a bad man at all if you give him a chance. He’s very good with his fans too. Look at his twitter and social networking for proof on that. He replied to me on twitter a few times.

People just hate him out of jealousy, in my opinion and that’s the end of it. Jealous of him that he’s a wrestling Icon. They just want to be him. Sad thing is that the haters will never admit that they watch wrestling ’cause of Hogan. I know I watch ’cause of him. He was a hero of mine when I was a kid.

Fuck Gawker. I’m glad they are gone and that’s why Hogan won my respect back right there. I hope WWE patches things up with Hogan someday and I think they will. WWE already buried the hatchet with Bret Hart over the Montreal Screwjob angle and it took a long time for them to do that too.

Kev